Perhaps the trainees hadnt made a mistake after all. It was one of the worst things I ever looked at. Mayday. Incredibly, despite achieving a reasonable radio fix, somehow that information was not relayed to Flight 19. by Brian Dunning Filed under History & Pseudohistory, Paranormal Skeptoid Podcast #417 June 3, 2014 Podcast transcript | Subscribe Listen: Senator Ernest Lundeen of Minnesota, that manifest showed and the press soon reported that the other passengers on-board Trip 19 included a Special Agent of the FBI, a second FBI employee, and a prosecutor from the Criminal Division at the U.S. Department of Justice. Mayday. They arrive at the airfield. By Thomas Van Hare. Young: Angry crowds came out to protest him and his safety was in question on more than one occasion. They drive to the airfield for him to catch his flight. Bradley Hart: Allegations already circulating that he might be pro-German, if not pro-Nazi. Most of the men comprising Flight 19 were student aviators of Class 46330 completing their syllabus in the advanced TBM course before ultimately reporting to their operational squadrons. And, for that matter, while he sat in his office with his head in his hands just before leaving for that flight. FT-28: We are heading 030 degrees for 45 minutes, then we will fly north to make sure we are not over the Gulf of Mexico. (Ed.

What most people do not know is that Senator Lundeen was under investigation at the time of his death., A G-Man [meaning an FBI agent], a Department of Justice attorney, and an FBI secretary were on the plane with him, and all were killed., The Department of Justice probably will deny that they were shadowing the Minnesota Senator, but the fact is that at least one of them definitely was.". NBC Radio Anchor: In Washington, the flags are at half staff today. This is FT-74, plane or boat calling Powers please identify yourself so someone can help you. (Ed. Did people lose their seat? It was mid-afternoon on December 5, 1945, just five months after the end of World War II, when a routine training mission of five aircraft took off and headed east from Ft. Lauderdale, Florida, for navigation training. Its called Flight 19 because it was the 19th group of training pilots that day. The tragic, mysterious crash of a commercial airliner in the summer of 1940 left a scene of devastation in rural Virginia -- and a series of unanswered questions. He was in his first term in Congress when he took that vote against the war. Has anyone ever done the math to establish a general search area? WebWednesday. On the day that Flight 19 really got their wings. One of the SAR aircraft reported the weather after the flight: the ceiling was approximately 800 to 1200 feet overcast, occasional showers, estimated wind, west southwest about 25 30 knots. 28, USS Princeton CVL23 War Damage Report No. FT-28: All planes close up tight well have to ditch unless landfall when the first plane drops below 10 gallons, we all go down together.. 7-7-42, U-Boat War in the Caribbean: Opportunities Lost, Ultra and the Campaign Against U-boats in World War II, Underwater earthquake disasters and the U.S. Navy, General Regulations: Full Dress, Undress, Service Dress, Part 7: Regulations for Wearing Shoulder Straps, Straw Hats, Sword and Scabbard, Sword-Belt, Sword-Knot, Buttons, Cravat, Uniform Regulations, Women's Reserve, USNR, 1943, Gas Masks and Breathing Apparatus U.S. Navy Uniform, Uniform and Dress of the Navy of the Confederate States, Petty Officer Rating Badge Locations and Eagle Designs, Historical Surveys of the Evolution of US Navy Uniforms, United States Atlantic Fleet Organization 1942, United States Pacific Fleet Organization, 1 May 1945, United States Naval Railway Batteries in France, United States Navy and World War I: 19141922, United States Submarine Losses World War II, Notes to US Submarine Losses in World War II, German U-Boat Casualties in World War Two, Italian Submarine Casualties in World War Two, Japanese Submarine Casualties in World War Two (I and RO Boats), Unmanned Vehicles for U.S. Evidence that Senator Lundeen was involved in a criminal conspiracy, a conspiracy to subvert American democracy on behalf of a hostile foreign power. These, compounded by mechanical failures and what seems to be a failure of leadership, culminated in one of historys greatest aviation mysteries. ENGINES RECOMMENDATIONS: Added emphasis is being placed on GEN NATURE E-2 importance of proper navigation & lost plane procedure SPEC TYPE ACC (6) Lost - fuel exhaustion CO: Concur with report of board. There had been 25 people on board that plane, including the crew. Maddow: Lundeen's political career had a bit of a bumpy start. Everyone was killed instantly. It was hoped that the students all had wristwatches, though this was never checked. The messages were overheard by the senior flight instructor at Ft. Lauderdale, Fox Tare Seventy-Four (FT-74), who contacted the flight from his aircraft. Senator Ernest Lundeen reported killed today in the crash of a Pennsylvania Central Airlines plane, was the second member of the United States Senate to die in an airplane crash. Might not have been. WebAt approx 1600, radio messages THOMPSON, HOWELL O SGT, USMCR-A MISSING A that led us to believe flight was lost in vicinity of PAONESSA, GEORGE R SGT, USMCR-A MISSING A Bahama Islands. It started with a plane crash. Now the expos did not mention Senator Lundeen by name, but the newspaper's description of the scheme, it was spot-on when it came to describing the nature of that relationship, the nature of the activities that Lundeen was up to with that German agent. 0h 29m. Bullseye indicates bearing and radius of Flight 19 based on radio fixes. 370 (1889) Copies of Books to the Navy Department Library, General Order No. What was he doing? He lay in state at the state capitol. CAPT, USMC VTB-1 UNLIMITED 8 W 8 UNIT AIRCRAFT ASSIGNED WEATHER @ ACCIDENT INSRUMENT INSTRUMENT TYPE CLEARANCE VTB-1, NAS FT LAUDERDALE HOURS HOURS CONTACT TOTAL HOURS TOTAL HRS THIS MODEL TOTAL HRS LAST 3 MONTHS HRS THIS MODEL LAST 3 MONTHS TIME IN FLIGHT MANEUVER OR ALT OF MANEUVER ANGLE OF IMPACT, STOP DIST, EST SPEED 344.9 62.2 69.2 62.2 Approx. Flight 19 was a United States Navy training mission that disappeared in 1945 within the Bermuda Triangle, forming one of the central parts in the Bermuda Triangle mythology. Im sure they dropped them, the only question is where. They let him ride in the caboose to the next station. Literally on the local railroad. WebAt approx 1600, radio messages THOMPSON, HOWELL O SGT, USMCR-A MISSING A that led us to believe flight was lost in vicinity of PAONESSA, GEORGE R SGT, USMCR-A MISSING A Bahama Islands. The flight leader was first heard in conversation with members of his flight, discussing that they were lost somewhere off the Florida coast. 9-29-322, Unit 296 B.S. Archival support from Holly Klopchin.

Much of the information in media accounts has been altered to support the myth. 1 to be exact. We couldnt. When Lundeens secretary raced to the scene of the crash that afternoon to learn the fate of her boss, one report from the time says she met a policeman at the scene of the crash who told her something strange. Ernest Lundeen, 62 years old, had been on board that flight and he was among the dead. ), FT-28 (about 20 minutes later; partly paraphrased): We will fly 270 degrees until we hit the beach or run out of gas. (Ed comments: this was absolutely the right thing and had they done this earlier, they would have been fine.). TALLY CLASSIFICATION OF ACCIDENT CAUSES D R A-B O AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT D R A-B OTHER 100% UNDETERMINED CARD NAVAIR 339C X X, Lieutenant (jg) Walter G. Jeffrey - Search Aircraft, DATE HOUR LOCATION PURPOSE SERIAL NUMBER 5-Dec-45 UNKNOWN UNKNOWN EMERGENCY SEARCH ATU-11-45 PILOT NAME, RANK & SERVICE GROUP ASSIGNED CEILING VISIBILITY WIND FORCE DARKNESS NIGHT HRS NIGHT HRS JEFFREY, WALTER G., USN, Lt(jg) VPB2-ATU3 6000 8 270 10 YES UNIT AIRCRAFT ASSIGNED WEATHER @ ACCIDENT INSRUMENT INSTRUMENT TYPE CLEARANCE VPB2-ATU3 NAS BANANA RIVER HOURS HOURS CONTACT TOTAL HOURS TOTAL HRS THIS MODEL TOTAL HRS LAST 3 MONTHS HRS THIS MODEL LAST 3 MONTHS TIME IN FLIGHT MANEUVER OR ALT OF MANEUVER ANGLE OF IMPACT, STOP DIST, EST SPEED 1917.8 426.2 85.7 85.7 UNKNOWN UNKNOWN PREVIOUS ACCIDENT RECORD Informal fact finding board convened by CO of INJURIES TO PILOT NAS BANANA RIVER, FL to investigate loss of MISSING A PBM-5 59225 & crew of 13 officers and men. Lundeen: We are being urged on by insane hysteria. Thats when it nosedived. On December 5th,1945 just after 2 pm, Flight 19 left Fort Lauderdales Naval Air Station. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Incorrectly, the popular lore regarding the disappearance of Flight 19 claims otherwise. 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An intensive search was carried out starting A/C MODEL & NO PARACHUTE daybreak 6 DEC 1945 & securing 1527, 10 DEC 1945. That allows us to make our own judgment about what might have happened. Yeah. Theyre patriots who are saving America. 230 (1877) Special Shore Service and Duty, General Order No. The two engines of the DC-3 actually had been at wide-open full throttle when the plane slammed into the ground. But the Senator did have reason to be concerned while he was on the plane that day. That investigation found that while there was bad weather there was thunder and lightning and some heavy rainfall in the area there was nothing so unusual about the storm that the plane shouldn't have been cleared to fly. This site is Speculation, but no proof, one way or another. If these directions had been heard & carried out, we are certain this flight would have been returned to base safely. Reason? JORDON, JAMES F ARM3C USN MISSING A 52. This was crusading, controversial columnist Drew Pearson. It was one of the final links in a disastrous chain of errors. WebShortly after 2:00 p.m. on 5 December 1945, five TBM Avenger torpedo bombers departed U.S. John Flannery didn't only talk to the surviving witnesses to the plane crash, he's also made a real study of the aeronautics board report into the crash. 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There were also those reports of an altercation that took place among the passengers on-board the plane, what the secretary reportedly saw before takeoff, what the policeman reportedly told her. The group 4 h 55 m UNKNOWN -UNKNOWN PREVIOUS ACCIDENT RECORD INJURIES TO PILOT Pilot was member of scheduled, routine, day MISSING A navigation flight which took off from NAS Ft. - NAME AND RANK OF OTHER PERSONNEL INJ Lauderdale, 5 DEC at 1408. He was sworn-in to his first term in the House of Representatives in 1917, just a month before Congress took a very fateful vote on whether the U.S. would enter World War I. Lundeen, again, just a month into his first term in congress, he voted no. Steven J. Ross: They dont call themselves right-wing fanatics. HistoricWings.com :: A Magazine for Aviators, Pilots and Adventurers, A Magazine for Aviators, Adventurers and Pilots, Published on December 5, 2012 Maddow: Just as the journalist Drew Pearson predicted, the cause of the crash of Trip 19 has remained a mystery, indefinitely. We certainly don't know if something weird happening between the passengers somehow brought the plane down. What do you think happened to Flight 19 based on this? comments: FT-74 was already airborne and thereafter he flew south. 4, USS Pittsburgh, A Forgotten Enemy: PHS's [Public Health Service] Fight Against the 1918 Influenza Pandemic. We pick up the first messages to and from the lead aircraft, going by the call sign Fox Tare Two Eight (FT-28). And he managed to stand out even from his other peers who voted no like he did. ), Unidentified pilot: Dammit, if we could just fly west we would get home; head west, dammit. (Ed comments: This was the only voice of reason, one of the inexperienced pilots who recognized that they were still off the east coast of Florida in fact, based on even rudimentary navigation, that was the ONLY possibility. Perhaps most intriguing, though, was something that was found in the passenger manifest from the flight. Another 20 minutes passed without clear signal from any of the aircraft then the following was heard (by this time, the flight was nearly out of fuel. 110 (1869) Forbidding Applications for Duty Through Persons of Influence, General Order No. Intensive search was carrried A/C MODEL & NO PARACHUTE out starting at daybreak 6 DEC 1945 & securing at 1527 TBM-3 23307 USED 10 DEC 1945. 1 to be exact. The group At approx 1600, radio messages LIGHTFOOT, W. E., PFC USMCRA MISSING A were intercepted that led us to believe that this flight was lost in vicinity of Bahama Is. Radio Reporter: In this country now, in the nations capital at Washington. Its called Flight 19 because it was the 19th group of training pilots that day. You must do this now. We pick up the first messages to and from the lead aircraft, going by the call sign Fox Tare Two Eight (FT-28). Intensive search was carried out starting daybreak A/C MODEL & NO PARACHUTE 6 DEC 1945 & securing 1527, 10 DEC. #TBM-1C 45714 USED Results negative. Naval Air Station Fort Lauderdale, Florida, for a routine navigational training flight with Lt. Charles C. Taylor acting as the flight's leader. That denial from the Justice Department, as emphatic as it was, it didnt hold up. 129 (1903) Surplus Provisions, General Order No. GEN NATURE Y SPEC TYPE EXPLODED AT SEA- CAUSE ANALYSIS TALLY UNKNOWN D R A-B O AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT D R A-B OTHER CLASSIFICATION OF ACCIDENT CAUSES CARD NAVAIR 339C D R, DANFS - Dictionary of American Naval Fighting Ships, Permitting Policy and Resource Management, The 9/11 Terrorist Attacks: 20 Years Later, "Ex Scientia Tridens": The U.S. 127 (1869) List of Types of Officers to Mess in Second Ward Room, General Order No. In any case, the Bahamas and the Keys look a lot alike from the air and most likely he was somewhere near Great Sale Cay, which was on his intended course i.e., nowhere near the Florida Keys. Bradley Hart: Lundeen sort of creates a gadfly reputation for himself. On a sunny day 58 years ago, five Navy planes took off from their base in Florida on a routine training mission, known as Flight 19. 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Appendix A: Chronology - January 1991 cont. The pilot was very experienced. Some of the passengers were locked in a struggle of some kind.

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